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ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: A court decision forces Marine Le Pen out of the 2027 French presidential election.
BIANNA GOLODRYGA, CNN ANCHOR: The second hour of ONE WORLD starts right now.
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MELISSA BELL, CNN SENIOR PARIS CORRESPONDENT: It is nothing short of a political earthquake here in France. Make no mistake, she will be making a
lot of noise about this.
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GOLODRYGA: Guilty. France's far-right figurehead has been banned from running for office for the next five years. What she was convicted of and
what it means for her party going forward.
ASHER: Also ahead, could Donald Trump seek a third term? The president says there are methods. We'll ask an expert if that's true.
Plus.
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WILL RIPLEY, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The around-the-clock search through that pile of rubble continues. People are here holding out
hope that maybe just maybe they'll find somebody who's still alive.
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GOLODRYGA: Nothing short of amazing. Days later, rescuers find survivors amongst the earthquake rubble.
Hi everyone. Live from New York, I'm Bianna Golodryga.
ASHER: And I'm Zain Asher. You are watching the second hour of ONE WORLD.
We want to begin this hour with a major moment in French politics. The country's far-right figurehead, Maureen Le Pen, has been found guilty of
embezzling European Parliament funds. She's now banned from running for political office for five years.
GOLODRYGA: That means she can't run for the French presidency in 2027, where she's already seen as the front-runner. Now, her lawyer says, she
will be appealing.
Right now, you're seeing footage of Le Pen in happier days with her protege, National Rally President, Jordan Bardella.
ASHER: He's been speaking out saying it's not only the pen quote who's being unjustly condemned, it's French democracy that it's being executed,
end quote.
GOLODRYGA: We're live in Paris with CNN's Melissa Bell, and you called it a political earthquake. And no doubt that is what it is. President Macron is
term-limited out. Le Pen was seen as the front-runner. What does this mean for her party going forward? And what, if any, legal options does she have
now, accept appealing?
BELL: Well, she had made it very clear that she would appeal even before this verdict and the sentences -- this sentencing was handed out. And you
just showed a moment to go over these images of her leaving the courtroom today.
She did so, Bianna and Zain, even before the sentencing was read out, starting to understand, as the judge read for a long time, a good couple of
hours this took more about the charges against her and the gravity, according to the judge of this case, where her and her party were accused
of having embezzled money that was due, that was European money, due -- used normally to pay parliamentary insistence, instead had paid party
workers here in France.
And that misuse of the money explained the presiding judge was such an affront to democracy that she believed it was necessary to grant the
prosecutionist's wish that this ineligibility clause should be included in the sentencing.
And it was to that that Marin Le Pen European had been speaking vociferously these last few days saying they want my political death and
you mentioned the words of Jordan Bardella, the current president of her party, the National Rally, saying that it is French democracy that has been
executed.
It was with a view to this kind of messaging that the presiding judge spoke at such great length about the need to protect democracy and the affront to
democracy that this system, vast system, she described of embezzling these funds had been. So she was preempting a lot of these attacks still.
The verdict in the sentencing have huge implications, of course, for the 2027 election and who now stands for the National Rally. It has -- they
have huge implications as well, politically, in France just in the next few days and weeks.
Remember that since last year's snap election, Marine Le Pen's National Rally has been the largest parliamentary, bloc party in the French National
Assembly. That has implications for the current prime minister's very fragile majority and ability to continue functioning as a government.
He has yet to react, Francois Bayrou said that he will do so only tomorrow, but there could be some short-term political implications of this, but
certainly in the long-term
This fourth run that Martin Le Pen would have made for the French presidency appears now to be impossible. And we're likely to hear much more
from her party about who then will be standing in her place, but an extraordinary apparent end to a political career that has lasted span
decades and that had always had an eye on the presidency. Zain and Bianna.
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GOLODRYGA: Yes. Some concern within the party that Jordan Bardella is perhaps too green, too young to take over that leadership role. This is a
story that will continue to follow closely.
Melissa Bell in Paris for us. Thank you so much.
ASHER: All right. Donald Trump says that he is not joking when he talks about serving a third term as U.S. president.
GOLODRYGA: Despite the constitution forbidding anyone elected twice from running for a third time. But on Sunday, Trump said, quote, there are
methods of him serving beyond his current term. And then a scary callback to the January 6 insurrection Trump didn't answer when asked if he would
leave the presidency when his current term is up.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Will you clarify, are you planning to leave office January 20th, 2029? Are you saying you might not?
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Go ahead. Any other questions?
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GOLODRYGA: CNN senior White House reporter Kevin Liptak joins us with more. You're wearing a lot of hats today. You're wearing the third hat. Term
limit hat and also tariff hats. Let's ask about the questions about Trump seeking a third term unconstitutionally at that.
What more are you hearing from White House officials in response to what he told our colleagues at NBC?
KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Well, it's not clear that this is something that the president is actively exploring, but certainly the fact
that he's talking about this publicly and raising questions about it publicly, I think has led to a lot of concerns.
You know, ordinarily, someone might just be quick to write this off as an attempt at distraction. It might very well be that.
But when you look at the president's history, he attempts to cling to power in 2020. The January 6 insurrection, I think a lot of people say, well, you
have to take this seriously anytime the president is talking about this.
Of course, it is written into the Constitution, the 22nd Amendment of the Constitution, that a person, this is quoting the Constitution, no person
shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice. They wrote that in 1951 after FDR served for consecutive terms.
What it was essentially doing is codifying the unwritten practice started by George Washington that a president only serves two terms.
So when the president says that there are methods to get around that, it's not exactly clear what he says. I guess the easiest would be to just repeal
that amendment to the Constitution, but that would be an enormous task and it would require the buy-in, not only from federal and local officials, but
also, you know, voters.
Do voters really want to see Donald Trump in the third term, in the White House, sort of breaking with all a precedent and norm? That's an open
question. It should also be said that Donald Trump would be 82 by the time he finishes the term he's currently serving.
It's not clear one whether he will have the stamina and energy to serve another term in office. We just don't know. But also whether he -- the
voters are wanting and willing to put another man into office who would be 86 at the end of this term. We've literally just lived that with the Joe
Biden presidency.
So a lot of questions, I think, by the president raising this. At the end of the day, this is still, you know, many years away for this question to
be answered. There are a lot of things that the president is doing right now that Americans are focused on, whether it's tariffs, whether it's
attempts to reform the federal government, whether it's these massive layoffs.
Certainly, this is something that, because of the president's history here, will require constant attention over the next three years.
ASHER: Kevin Liptak, live for us there at the White House. Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: Well, Democrats say that Trump has been testing the limits of presidential power and trying to expand his own authority ever since he re-
entered the White House just two short months ago.
ASHER: Yes. From pressuring universities and law firms to attacking the judiciary to governing through executive orders rather than legislation,
some experts say the U.S. is already in a constitutional crisis.
One prominent lawmaker says it's time for Americans to wake up.
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REP. JIM CLYBURN (D-SC): Oh, I don't think he's joking at all. This man does not plan to leave this White House. All of this is about suspending,
if not eliminating the Constitution of the United States, and that's the track we're on.
And I think people better get serious about this. When he says he's not joking about throwing away the Constitution, which is what he'll have to
do, in order to have a third term, and we are not going to rise up in opposition to that, I think it's time for us all to wake up.
CNN presidential historian Tim Naftali joins us live now from New York. He's also the co-author of "Impeachment in American History."
So you look at Donald Trump's words, Tim, just this idea that he's not joking about a third term. Also, Steve Bannon was interviewed by Chris
Cuomo a couple of weeks ago, and he said, I'm a firm believer that President Trump will run and win again in 2028, so I've already endorsed
him. A man like this comes along once every century, if we're lucky, and we've got him now.
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When you compare that to the fact that in the United States, according to the 22nd Amendment, no person shall run twice, just in terms of two
consecutive terms, no person shall be elected more than twice, some Trump supporters are saying that there's a way around that, including Steve
Bannon. He said that there are ways that they're exploring, they're looking at it, Donald Trump sort of intimated the same thing.
What are your thoughts? Are there actually ways that Donald Trump could run and win again three times?
TIM NAFTALI, CNN PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN: Donald Trump knows that he needs 38 states to accept an amendment to the Constitution that would allow him
to run for a third term.
Donald Trump knows he doesn't have -- there aren't 38 red states. So when he starts talking about this, he is talking about an unconstitutional or
illegal effort to stay in office. It had not been for January 6th, I think a lot of folks would just put this to one side and not take his using
seriously, but we've seen already an attempt by this individual to stay in office despite the law and the system of democracy that put him in office
in the first place.
But I think you have to take him very seriously. There is no constitutional way for Donald Trump to stay in office. He could not be JD Vance's vice
presidential candidate because the 12th Amendment excludes from the vice presidential ticket anyone who's not constitutionally able to be president.
So he couldn't do what Putin did, for example, by being the number two to Medvedev for a few years and then be president again. That's not
constitutionally possible.
But Donald Trump is enjoying, he's on a run now as an autocrat in the United States. He is creating a culture of impunity in the United States.
He is getting institutions, large, powerful institutions to bend to him. He's getting law firms. He's on the road to getting universities. He's got
Congress, all allowing him to do things that are arguably illegal.
So in this climate, of course, he's thinking about a way to stay in office past is the end of his second.
GOLODRYGA: You mentioned the 12th Amendment. And Kristen Welker asked him about that possibility of essentially running as JD Vance's running mate
and then doing the Putin-Medvedev switcheroo to which he responded, well, that's one way we could do it, but there are others.
You say the most benevolent way to look at this, the most benign way to look at this is perhaps Donald Trump trying to stay relevant knowing that
in the upcoming midterms, he will essentially be a lame duck seeing that he can't legally run for office a third time.
How much weight are you putting on that argument that this is just him trying to stay relevant?
NAFTALI: Well, I've thought about the three reasons he might be doing that. And that, as you mentioned, it is the most benevolent. But I'm afraid that
in the current -- given his behavior in this Trump 2.0 period since January 20th, I don't think that's what he's actually thinking. I don't think he's
going to be satisfied with political theater.
I believe that he is trying to begin the process through pressure to stay in office. He knows what he is doing. And he knows he doesn't have 38
states right now. And he is unlikely to have 38 states.
Let's keep in mind that his popularity is about to sink because of the consequences of liberation day of the tariffs. He is -- he is actually
going to be a less popular president in about two weeks, unless he veers away from this massive tariff imposition that he's been threatening. So
he's even less likely to have 38 states by the end of the year.
ASHER: Right. So he would need 38 states. He would also need two-thirds approval from both the Senate and the House. When you think about this
president's dictatorial tendencies, for lack of a better word, you know, this idea of toying with the idea of a potential sort of third term, you
combine that with this desire to seize territories and autonomous countries, what he said about making Canada the 51st state, what he said
about sort of absorbing Greenland into the United States, what he said about even taking over the Gaza Strip and turning it into some kind of
Riviera of the Middle East.
When you think about all of that, and also what's happening on university campuses across the United States right now, it is clear that you believe
that this is not just a joke that he is actively thinking about it.
So my question to you is, given that there is a barrier when it comes to 38 states, how might this president actually attempt, how might he actually
attempt, even if he doesn't go all the way because of the rules that we talked about? How might he attempt to stay a third term, do you think?
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NAFTALI: I don't want to give him ideas.
ASHER: OK.
NAFTALI: But what I will say is -- but I will say that it is the part of the playbook of authoritarians throughout the world.
You know, autocracy is not the creation of one political culture. Unfortunately, human beings can be greedy and can lust for power. It
doesn't matter what their political culture happens to be. No one is immune from that kind of bad leadership.
So one of the things that we have to look toward are the stalwarts -- the stewards of our institutions and the Supreme Court being one and the United
States military being another. The United States military has all members of the federal government. They owe their allegiance to the Constitution.
This is a country where you do not put your hand up and take an oath to the president. So that oath is very important. And I think that oath will
stabilize some of the important institutions that can stand in the way of an unconstitutional or illegal third term by Donald Trump.
GOLODRYGA: All right. Tim Naftali, thank you for such an uplifting conversation.
ASHER: I'm glad you didn't give him any ideas though.
NAFTALI: Sorry. You asked the question.
GOLODRYGA: Yes, of course. Appreciate the time. Thank you.
ASHER: Thank you, Tim.
All right. Still to come here on ONE WORLD.
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ELON MUSK, SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I feel like this is one of those things that may not seem that it's going to
affect the entire destiny of humanity, but I think it will.
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ASHER: Why Elon Musk says one state's election in the U.S. could determine the fate of mankind.
GOLODRYGA: Also ahead, Space Jam, no, not the movie. The European rocket launch that ran into trouble.
ASHER: And standing together, a community in New Jersey takes action after the Turkish couple is arrested by immigration authorities.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I saw it on the news and I just didn't like what happened.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, obviously I'm here to support the family.
CAMERON SILER, CUSTOMER, JERSEY KEBAB: What went down, it's unfair. And they're not the only people going through it.
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ASHER: A breakthrough moment, even if things literally broke up. You're looking at the first rocket capable of reaching orbit to be launched from
Continental Europe. Things didn't quite go as planned though.
The rocket called Spectrum only manages to stay in the air for about 30 seconds before crashing down into the Norwegian Sea.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. Despite this, the company behind the launch says it was still successful. Isar Aerospace says that it was able to gather flight
data that can be used on further on future missions.
European startups are scrambling to grab a piece of the latest space race, which is dominated right now by the U.S. and China.
Well, we are learning that the bodies of three U.S. soldiers were recovered from a bog in Lithuania. The soldiers went missing on January 25th. The
U.S. Army says they are still searching for a fourth soldier. CNN's Natasha Bertrand has more.
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NATASHA BERTRAND, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Three U.S. Army soldiers have been recovered from that bog in Lithuania where their vehicle
sunk last week, resulting in a multi-day multi-national operation to try to recover that vehicle from the mud and bog in that Lithuanian swamp.
One U.S. service member, a soldier, still has yet to be recovered here and operations are underway to try to recover that soldier. But this is really
a tragic near end to the multi-national operation we have seen play out in Lithuania over the last six days, which saw hundreds of U.S. service
members as well as troops from Lithuania's military, as well as troops from Poland's military come in and try to recover the service members.
Now, according to officials, these service members were driving this extremely heavy vehicle that is meant to be able to tow other vehicles that
have broken down. They were essentially on a mission to try to recover another vehicle that had broken down nearby when they essentially ran into
this bog where their vehicle became submerged in under 15 feet of water and mud.
And it has been extremely difficult for the militaries, the U.S., Lithuanian and Polish militaries to try to recover that vehicle because of
the fact that it has just been buried under so much mud and the ground around this vehicle is extremely unsteady.
So the equipment that they have needed has been extremely delicate and difficult to position as well. They did recover that vehicle very early
this morning, according to the Lithuanians, and a statement that was just put out by the U.S. military. And again, so far, only three of the four
U.S. service members have been recovered, but really all hands on deck at this point to try to recover that fourth U.S. soldier.
And of course, while next of kin notifications are underway, we have not yet gotten the identities of those four U.S. service members that are
either now deceased or still missing.
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ASHER: Natasha Bertrand there.
Rescue efforts in Myanmar have entered a critical stage as work is sifted through the rubble looking for survivors.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. More than 2,000 people have died following Friday's massive earthquake and authorities say that number is expected to be much higher.
CNN's Will Ripley has more on the dire situation.
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RIPLEY: If hell had a name, it might be Sagaing, ground zero of Myanmar's worst earthquake in more than a hundred years.
Stories and images are just now beginning to trickle out. The destruction, as awful as we imagined, maybe worse.
The heroes are everyday people, like Popo, a kindergarten teacher. She was with her students when the massive earthquake hit.
POPO, KINDERGARTEN TEACHER: On that day of the accident, we were able to evacuate all the children. Many children and teachers in some schools lost
their lives due to the earthquake.
RIPLEY: Popo's school is in Mandalay, Myanmar's second largest city. Her home is across the river in Sagaing, a historic city known for ancient
pagodas and monasteries, many of them now in ruins.
She says 80 percent of the city is gone. The old Sagaing bridge collapsed, cutting off aid, leaving survivors to fend for themselves. Even first
responders are powerless. The fire station flattened, trucks crushed beneath the rubble.
About 200 miles away, Myanmar's famed Inle Lake, almost unrecognizable. Entire villages submerged. So many iconic homes on stilts collapsed into
the water. Some here wonder if the world has forgotten them.
In Mandalay, near the quake's epicenter, a moment of hope. "Big brother, we are coming for you," he says. "We found you. Your heroes are here. After
this, we will sit and sip tea."
Against all odds, one life saved. Not everyone is so lucky.
Minutes later, another powerful aftershock. The remaining structure gave way.
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Just like that, gone.
In the capital, Naypyidaw, a small miracle.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello.
RIPLEY: Forty-four hours after the quake, rescuers from Singapore pull a survivor from the rubble.
A rare bright spot in the grim search for any sign of life. Hope of finding more buried survivors all but gone.
Back near ground zero, Popo says no rescues are happening. Sagaing is almost totally cut off. Survivors are desperate for food, clean water,
medical supplies. Every passing hour brings more uncertainty, more heartbreak.
So much pain being felt right now in Myanmar and here, hundreds of miles away in Bangkok, where the around-the-clock search through that pile of
rubble continues, people are here holding out hope that maybe, just maybe, they'll find somebody who's still alive in all of that. Even though as each
hour passes, that becomes less and less likely.
Will Ripley, CNN, Bangkok.
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GOLODRYGA: And for information about how you can help Myanmar earthquake victims, go to cnn.com/impact.
And we'll be right back with more.
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ASHER: All right. Welcome back to ONE WORLD. I'm Zain Asher.
GOLODRYGA: And I'm Bianna Golodryga.
The most expensive judicial election in U.S. history is about to come to the ballot box. On Tuesday, voters in Wisconsin will pick between
conservative, Brad Schimel, and liberal Susan Crawford in the race for a seat on Wisconsin State Supreme Court. Now the winner will determine
whether the evenly divided court tilts to the left or the right.
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ASHER: Elon Musk and his political allies have pumped tens of millions of dollars into the race. To counter that, big money, democratic donors like
George Soros have actually done the same as well. The result is what could be the first $100 million judicial race.
And with the Wisconsin Supreme Court likely to face key questions on issues like abortion and congressional redistricting, all sides are saying that
this election is a must win.
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MUSK: What's happening on Tuesday is a vote for which party controls the U.S. House of Representatives. That is why it is so significant. And
whichever party controls the House, you know, to a significant degree controls the country, which then steers the course of Western civilization.
So it's like I feel like this is one of those things that may not seem that it's going to affect the entire destiny of humanity, but I think it will.
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ASHER: CNN's Arlette Saenz is tracking this story for us. So this is just in terms of concrete facts, the most expensive judicial race in history in
this country, just in terms of both sides pumping so much money into this race.
Just explain to our international audience why this race is so critical.
ARLETTE SAENZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, this is officially a nonpartisan race, but that is really just in name only. As you have seen so many
national figures and both political parties, Democrats and Republicans really take a lot of interest in this race for a single seat on Wisconsin
Supreme Court.
There is a liberal candidate, Susan Crawford, who is facing off against the conservative candidate, Brad Schimel, as Wisconsin voters are set to vote
here in the state tomorrow.
Now, Elon Musk has really gone all in on this race. He and groups aligned with him have poured more than $20 million into the state for field
operations, canvassing and television ads.
Elon Musk, as you heard there, one of his key concerns is the potential that a liberal majority on the court could revisit congressional maps here
in Wisconsin, which currently favor Republicans.
Now, on the democratic side, the liberal candidate have really built her campaign around an issue like abortion rights. But after Musk's involvement
in the race, they've kind of changed their strategy, hoping that voters might be turned off and turn out based on Elon Musk's big spending or his
cuts through DOGE in the federal government.
It all is shaping up right now. It is already the most expensive judicial contest in history. It's exceeded the 2023 state Supreme Court race that
played out here in the state. And those numbers and figures just keep ticking up with each passing day.
Now, Wisconsin is really the purplest of all of the battleground states. It's the state where Trump had his narrowest margin of victory back in
2024. President Biden had won here back in 2020. And so it really highlights the stakes of this election and part of why this is attracting
so much national attention.
President Trump has endorsed the conservative candidate. And so really, we will start to hear from voters what they are making with -- what decision
they are making as they are heading to the polls tomorrow in what's shaping up to be the most important political election so far of Trump's second
term in office.
ASHER: Arlette Saenz, live for us there. Thank you.
GOLODRYGA: So what do Wisconsin voters think about all of this attention on a race that ordinarily flies very much under the radar? Time now for The
Exchange. Joining us is Anya Van Wagtendonk of Wisconsin Public Radio. Anya, thank you so much for joining us.
So it's rare to have someone as prominent and close to the president of the United States like Elon Musk describe this election on election eve as one
that would decide the future of America and Western civilization when talking about a Supreme Court race.
What really is at stake here? And is there an argument to be made that perhaps Republicans are overindexing or maybe not on this particular race?
ANYA VAN WAGTENDONK, CAPITOL REPORTER, WISCONSIN PUBLIC RADIO: Well, it is interesting hearing how much of the messaging is around congressional
redistricting, which is just not a case that has been brought before this court. And in fact, a liberal challenge to districts was filed a few years
ago in front of the liberal majority, and it didn't go anywhere. And so that is much more of a hypothetical situation.
What's actually kind of clearly on the line is abortion, as your correspondent mentioned. That's a case that's currently before the court.
And so whichever candidate wins will sort of determine the lean of the court as that goes forward. And then there are other issues that are kind
of at the state level but are of sort of national significance. So things like voting rights and labor rights.
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ASHER: And, Anya, just talk to us about who Brad Schimel is and what his background is. This is the -- this is the candidate the Republicans are
really sort of pushing for. He's a circuit court judge in Wisconsin and the state's former attorney general, but he's a Republican.
I mean, the state is supposed to be nonpartisan -- sorry. The Supreme Court in the state is supposed to be nonpartisan. But he's a Republican who's
expressed a lot of conservative views when it comes to voting rights and abortion rights, and the list goes on. He also filed a lawsuit against the
Affordable Care Act. Just walk us through that.
VAN WAGTENDONK: Yes. So he was the Republican attorney general, so he has held, you know, partisan office. Both candidates, I will say, are kind of
backed by the state political parties. He has held partisan office. He was a district attorney as well, so he really has that background as a
prosecutor, and that's kind of significant to how he's been running his campaign as well.
You mentioned those kind of conservative priorities. And then Susan Crawford, the liberal candidate also backed by the Wisconsin Democratic
Party, also worked for a democratic governor early in her career, and then before that, when he was the Democratic attorney general, she worked for
him as well.
And so they both are sort of aligned with these political parties, even though, as you note, it is nominally a nonpartisan race. It's pretty clear
sort of which camps both candidates sit in.
GOLODRYGA: I'm wondering how Elon Musk, in particular, is polling amongst Republicans in that state, given the polarization of the work that he's
been doing at DOGE. We've seen these town halls, Republican town halls, we should note, where there's been a lot of consternation from constituents
about the methods and ways he's going about cutting waste, fraud, and abuse from the federal government.
The fact that he is really the messenger here for Republicans, how are Republicans themselves responding to that?
VAN WAGTENDONK: Yes, you know, we talk about Wisconsin as a purple state. I think it's important to note it's quite a deep purple state, meaning that
people who are on the right are pretty far on the right. People who are on the left are pretty far on the left. And so people who like Donald Trump
and Elon Musk really like Elon Musk and sort of the presence that he has here in the state. There was quite a long line for his event here in
Wisconsin last night.
And people who don't care for the Trump administration and don't care for Elon Musk really, really, really do not like sort of the arrival of those
national priorities here in the state. And certainly hearing from a lot of voters on both sides is a little bit of exhaustion just about the flood of
advertising reaching people. But I think especially from the kind of anti- Trump and anti-Musk side of things, it's the arrival of Musk backed money that people are really pointing to almost even more than they are talking
about frustration with the Trump White House. It's frustration with Elon Musk.
ASHER: And that's going to be my next question. I mean, how people in Wisconsin really reacting to just the sheer amount of money that has been
spent on this race. You've got Elon Musk giving away $1 million to two different people on stage at a rally. You've got the fact that he donated
at least three million to the Republican Party of Wisconsin.
But you also have the fact that the America PAC is giving away $100 to Wisconsin voters who sign a petition in opposition to activist judges and
$20 for Wisconsin voters who take a photo just giving a sort of thumbs up sign to the judge, Brad Schimel.
Just how are ordinary voters on the ground there in Wisconsin reacting to that?
VAN WAGTENDONK: Again, it's a little bit sort of depending on where you land, I think Democrats are quite outraged by this. There are clear state
laws about, you know, enticing people to vote anything above a dollar value is not allowed. You can't give out, you know, this was a real case. You
can't give out ice cream to people with an "I voted" sticker. And so there is you know, there was some question about these Elon Musk donations. But I
think he's found some ways around that by not tying it directly to voting or directly to casting a ballot. And so these things are kind of these
workarounds.
And so I think it's also just bringing a lot of kind of surprise and intrigue into the state as people just see these tactics arriving. And as
you mentioned earlier, what is historically been a pretty sleepy springtime kind of election, but I don't think these are going to say sleepy anymore.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. I want to ask you, what are estimates for turnout now tomorrow?
VAN WAGTENDONK: Well, so for tomorrow, we are not actually entirely sure, because the early voting numbers have been, again, kind of historic and
record breaking. We are seeing enormous rates of early voting turnout.
And one thing that's been interesting, you know, two years ago was the first record setting state court election here. And we thought that was
extraordinary at $56 million. This one has hit $100 million. But early voting in that race is really sort of significant in democratic strongholds
and by liberal voters.
And in that case, the liberal candidate vastly outperforms the conservative candidate. This time around, we are seeing up to 300 percent increases in
really Republican strongholds and counties that are historically quite conservative and quite Republican. And so it's going to be really
interesting.
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I think we might again see record breaking turnout overall. And so it'll be interesting also to see that early voting versus day of kind of
relationship, especially for conservative voters who are not typically early voters.
GOLODRYGA: All right. We'll be paying close attention to this race for sure. Anya Van Wagtendonk of Wisconsin Public Radio. Thank you so much for
the time.
ASHER: Thank you, Anya.
All right. A fire damaged the entryway of the Republican Party in New Mexico, which the party has been calling, quote, a deliberate act of arson.
The fire department says the fire was brought under control within about five minutes and nobody was hurt.
GOLODRYGA: Yes. The words ICE equals KKK were spray painted on the building. Now, ICE refers to the Immigration and Customs Enforcement under
the Trump administration. It has been prominent in deporting migrants from the United States.
Well, today could be the start of another rocky week on Wall Street as global markets are on edge. As President Donald Trump plans to impose
sweeping new tariffs Wednesday on America's trading partners. Analysts warn his so-called liberation day could amount to a major trade war escalation.
ASHER: But the White House claims the levees will ultimately strengthen the U.S. economy.
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PETER NAVARRO, WHITE HOUSE SENIOR COUNSELOR FOR TRADE AND MANUFACTURING: Trust in Trump, we have the example from the first term. We know that we
impose historically high tariffs on China. We impose aluminum and steel tariffs. We impose on washing machines, on solar.
All we got out of that was prosperity and price stability. And the reason why we're not going to see inflation is because the foreigners are going to
eat most of it. They have to.
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GOLODRYGA: Well, new tariffs could impact a number of companies based in the U.S., including craft breweries.
ASHER: Yes. CNN's Dianne Gallagher explain why this industry is especially vulnerable.
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DIANNE GALLAGHER, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A bustling brewery, cans stacked to the ceiling as new ones come down the line just
six months ago.
ADAM CHARNACK, CO-FOUNDER, HI-WIRE BREWING: All this was destroyed in the hurricane.
GALLAGHER (voice-over): High-Wire Brewing's distribution warehouse fully underwater after Hurricane Helene.
CHARNACK: 1.3 million unfilled raw cans waiting to be filled with beer, almost 200,000 filled cans. And all that was destroyed.
GALLAGHER (voice-over): Co-founder Adam Charnack says they've improvised and spent a lot of money to get Hi-Wire Brewing again.
CHARNACK: Oh, yes.
GALLAGHER: Cheers.
CHARNACK: Cheers.
GALLAGHER (voice-over): And while these cans are signs of a comeback, they're also the source of a new challenge.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This is the beginning of making America rich again.
GALLAGHER (voice-over): President Trump imposed sweeping 25 percent tariffs on all steel and aluminum imported into the United States, much of which
comes from Canada and is used by brewers around the country.
Now Trump says the tariffs will level the playing field for domestic manufacturing.
JAMES SMITH, ECONOMIC FORECASTER: It's a tax. A tariff is a tax.
GALLAGHER (voice-over): Economists warned, it's not that simple.
SMITH: The U.S. doesn't produce enough aluminum. We may cure that, but that'll probably take at least a decade. So we have to import it.
CHARNACK: There's only so many options on where you buy your things. The cans are manufactured in the United States. I can't control where they get
their aluminum from.
Our can prices went up immediately five percent and they'll probably go up again. Twenty-four cans in a case, so, you know, you already have a quarter
a case right there. So those things really add up and when you're selling, you know, it's a volume game. You know, we don't sell 100 cases a day or a
week. We're selling thousands and thousands. I'm meeting that cost.
GALLAGHER: And the only alternative to recoup that right now would be to charge more.
CHARNACK: I can't do that.
AARON WILSON, HEAD BREWER, FRENCH BROAD BREWERY: One of the most active beer cities in the country.
GALLAGHER (voice-over): The extra costs are especially hard to swallow here in Asheville, home to more than 50 breweries that account for more than
2,500 jobs, with nearly a billion dollars in local economic impact, according to the Asheville Chamber of Commerce. After months of loss, the
beer industry like the city is still getting back on its feet.
WILSON: Six months to the day, we've finally got a beer in the tank.
GALLAGHER (voice-over): The French Broad River Brewery is still recovering from Helene. Owner Paul Casey says tariffs could make some of these small
businesses pivot.
GALLAGHER: Is there sort of a breaking point?
PAUL CASEY, OWNER, FRENCH BROAD BREWERY: I think it will change some people's or some companies or breweries' business plan. So instead of
packaging their beers up and sending them out into the market, they may focus more on their taprooms. It's a lot lower cost.
GALLAGHER (voice-over): Brewers also worry about tariff proposals on the horizon.
CASEY: A lot of our grain and malts are sourced from overseas, from Germany and the U.K., and that will impact a lot of breweries across the board.
CHARNACK: Now, a lot of our ingredients are just globally sourced.
GALLAGHER: Is it sustainable?
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CHARNACK: Right now, I can tell you, you know, our costs have gone up on our cans. There's nothing I can do about it.
Our margins are pretty thin as it is, so it's making it harder in an already difficult situation to be a successful small business.
GALLAGHER (voice-over): Dianne Gallagher, CNN, Asheville, North Carolina.
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GOLODRYGA: Coming up, a community pulls together in support of a beloved couple after immigration detained them for weeks, despite their legal
status here in the U.S.
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ASHER: So thousands of protesters marched through Dallas, Texas on Sunday to protest President Trump's immigration policies. The march was organized
by the League of United Latin American Citizens and called for bipartisan immigration reform.
GOLODRYGA: They also demanded the release of several students who have been detained by immigration officials across the country.
ASHER: Now to an emotional celebration at a kebab restaurant in New Jersey, after the owners were recently released from ICE detention.
Customers of Jersey Kebab wrote letters to an immigration judge. The Turkish couple, who are in the country legally, say that support helped
secure their release.
GOLODRYGA: Reporter Eva Andersen from our affiliate KYW shows us how this story unfolded.
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EMINE EMANET, OWNER, JERSEY KEBAB: Thank you.
EVA ANDERSEN, KYW REPORTER (voice-over): One look at Emine Emanet's smile and you know she's back doing what she loves, serving customers at Jersey
Kebab.
E. EMANET: It's good? Do you like it? Enjoy.
ANDERSEN (voice-over): Her husband, Celal, says the community and his family are even more relieved Emine, who was taken into custody, is home.
CELAL EMANET, OWNER, JERSEY KEBAB: I'm very happy because she's the main person in the family, also in the business. So we cannot do anything
without her. So thank God she is with us right now.
ANDERSEN (voice-over): On Sunday, hundreds of people lined up around the building decorated with notes of support. ICE agents arrested the couple at
the restaurant on February 25th.
The Turkish citizens say they emigrated here in 2008 on a religious visa and their green card applications are still pending.
C. EMANET: We are real people, you know. We didn't harm anybody. We are not criminals.
ANDERSEN (voice-over): Celal was released with an ankle monitor, but Emine spent two weeks at a detainment center before an emotional homecoming in
mid-March. They credit hundreds of community letters for her release on bond.
C. EMANET: On her bond court, it helped a lot because judge make decision. They saw that letters and, you know, like he saw, you know, around 300
letters. We had more than that.
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ANDERSEN (voice-over): To show their thanks, the Emanets offered a free feast to their supporters on the first day of Eid Al-Fitr.
C. EMANET: You pray and it works. That's why we are here right now.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right. Right.
ANDERSEN (voice-over): The day was emotional for customers who reflected on the Emanet's situation.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I saw it on the news and I just didn't like what happened.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean, obviously, I'm here to support the family.
SILER: What went down, it's unfair. And they're not the only people going through it. So, you know, I just want to see some change.
ANDERSEN (voice-over): The Emanets have a long journey ahead. But for now, they're serving up good food and gratitude.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you so much.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Enjoy.
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GOLODRYGA: OK. I've been waiting for this segment. I don't know if you thought that.
ASHER: Your favorite one.
GOLODRYGA: The Oscar winner, Mikey Madison, showed that she has some serious comedic chops while hosting "SNL" over the weekend.
ASHER: Yes. "SNL" put a spin on the Trump administration's signal group texting scandal on the show. Three teenagers get added to a group chat with
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wait, does anyone else think Mark Doogan is low key hot with that haircut?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my God. Yes. Glow up vibes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: FYI, green light on Yemen raid.
Tomahawks airborne 15 minutes ago. Who's ready to glass some Houthi rebels? Flag emoji, flag emoji, flag emoji, flag emoji, flag emoji, fire emoji,
eggplant.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop sending us this stuff.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hold up. Adding JD now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nice job on the strike, fam. Female skier emoji.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My bad. Meant to send fire emoji.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hold up. Adding Marco.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Rubio in the house. Wait, who are the other three numbers here? P.S. Sending you the real JFK files, not those fake ones we
released. Do not share.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We've been trying to tell you we're in high school.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think you accidentally added us to a government chat.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, could be worse. We could have added the editor of "The Atlantic" again.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You did. I am also here.
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GOLODRYGA: Oh, my God. I'm so glad that they had a new show this weekend because I was waiting to see what they were doing.
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ASHER: We should let these staple on the show. At least once a week in "SNL."
Ending the show with an "SNL" segment.
GOLODRYGA: Every Monday. Give you a little bit of humor on our reality.
All right. Well, that does it for this hour of ONE WORLD.
ASHER: I'm Zain Asher. Appreciate you watching. Don't go anywhere. I'm stealing your line, literally. I'm like reading your line. She's going to
be back with "AMANPOUR" after the break.
GOLODRYGA: I'll be right back.
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